Two white dudes talking about what it's like to be a women in the church and in today's society. They know. Stephen and Jeff about to step into it, and with the best of intentions — covering the role and dignity of women in the church and in society, where the Bible actually lands on it, and where the church has done real damage by getting it wrong.
They get into the MacArthur/Beth Moore moment, what 1 Timothy 3 actually says about female deacons (it may not be what you think), the egalitarian arguments worth a serious hearing, and what Augustine said about women and sexual violence in 410 AD that was genuinely revolutionary. Also: the end of Judges, which is a lot.
The conversation gets personal too. Stephen has four daughters. Jeff has three sons. This topic affects them both in completely different ways.
